Raisman’s Amanar attempt at Classic last weekend:
Better than the last time she tried it, yes, but disappointing. I had hoped for better. For someone who has an excellent DTY and who’s allegedly been training the 2.5 for 18 months, that’s not a great effort. A lot of people observed that it looked like she’d only just learned how to do it.
It clearly wasn’t fully rotated. But it was credited as an Amanar anyway, and she received the full 6.5 for it.This wasn’t a big surprise. US domestic scoring is universally renowned as a giveaway. The habit of crediting things that clearly shouldn’t be credited has caused trouble in the past. Anyone remember Sacramone not getting the EGR in Aarhus prelims after being given it all year at home?
Love the high tumbling in that set, but anyone who thought she was meeting the EGR for the leap sequence clearly hadn’t read it.
Anyways, the issue at hand is the crediting of short vaults internationally. The COP has specified since 2006 (or was it 07?) that all vaults must be fully rotated, or they are to be downgraded. Even if they’re only an eensy bit short. There’s no difference between 180 degrees and 260. They’re both supposed to get the same D score. Supposed to. In practice though, it’s not usually worked like that.
To some extent, a pattern had emerged. Judges were strict at Euros, then less so at worlds/Olympics. So for example in 08, Becky Downie’s DTY at Euros was about one and seven eighths round, but wasn’t credited.
Then in Beijing, the A panel credited every single vault that called itself an Amanar. Cheng Fei and Shawn Johnson were short in every round but prelims, and Pavlova seriously only got 2.25 rotations done in the final. But they still all got their 6.5s.
Shawn in the AA:
Saint Anna in vault finals
(Incidentally, love that zero. The judges wait for her, not the other way round. Once again Miss Pavlova, we salute you).
This continued in 2009. Here is Rebecca Bross doing a not fully rotated DTY at worlds and getting 5.8 for it.
Interesting, since other aspects of vault judging were quite picky in London. They spent a lot of time umming and aahing over whether to credit various dished rudis as straight or piked too.
Then at 2010 worlds, it seemed that a new unwritten rule had emerged. If you were more than a quarter of the way round, you’d get credited for the extra half turn, but otherwise not.
Hence Mustafina and Kaeslin got away with it in EFs (and this, not her body shape on the second vault which the judges wrongly said was piked, is the real reason Aliya didn’t deserve to win vault). But Nabieva didn’t.
Tanya, twisting on landing but at the point of first impact I think she’s about 90 degrees short.
Now I think to some extent this is a deliberate policy. Some vaults are only slightly short, and not necessarily visible in real time. Jiang Yuyuan in TFs, for example, although youtube doesn’t have this routine on its own. Realistically, the judges are going to miss most of the five degrees short ones. I can see how they might have missed Aliya’s above, but Ariella’s was pretty frigging obvious. Not as obvious as Our Nabz though.
Which is why I’m wondering whether this is deliberate. The current rules are pretty stupid. It seems very unfair that a vault like Cheng Fei’s in the Beijing EF should only start from a 5.8.
It was only very slightly short, after all. And for better of for worse, judges aren’t applying them. I can imagine some of this is mistakes, but let’s be honest, being a difficulty panel judge on vault isn’t one of the more difficult assignments. Assuming the gymnast doesn’t show some mangled effort that could be one of a number of vaults (see Cheng Fei’s second vault in the above video for an example) you’re really just counting the twists.
With that in mind, I fully expect to see more athletes get credited for short Amanar attempts at worlds. The question is, will Aly be one of them…?